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Tuesday, June 06, 2006

So...So You Think You Can Tell, Heaven From Hell....

I'm intrigued.

While pondering today I was struck by the line I see. It is a line between two factions of the same group of people. If you are a regular reader of my site, you will probably guess that I'm talking about religious folks. Hear me out.

When most people talk about religious folks, they are talking about "good people." Everyday believers are, without a doubt, good and kind. It is their faith that supposedly plays a large part in why they are so good. Many people go so far as to say that it is only through faith that anyone can be good or just or moral. Rabbi Avi Shafran comes to mind along with many others.

Once a person goes deep into faith, however, there is a line that is crossed and they become "crazy." Christian nutbars abound (how sorry do you feel for those kids?), ranting, raving, blowing up abortion clinics, shooting doctors (thankfully this has not happened in a while, but the stats - scroll to the chart - speak for themselves, especially through the 90's), and generally being unlikeable. Muslims try and sometimes succeed to blow up buildings, monuments, ships, and everything not of-Allah.

When does one cross this line? Is it a matter of personality (Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel with James Dobson's level of faith will kill anything that doesn't believe in Christ) or the same for all (arbitrary amount of faith will tip the scale into religious madness)?

It seems to me as it has always been: the uneducated and ignorant are controlled by the "powerful" to do their bidding. Trailer park/ramshackle huts + desire for something better + smooth talker - rationality = dangerous people. Take a look at that video link above (the "nutbar") again. She's off her rocker, but she obviously has kids, a husband, a house, probably a job.... How often does she trip out like that and scare the hell out of everyone? How often do you think she comes in contact with "dark-sided" people like most of you reading this? She is in a thick bubble that needs to be popped in the worst way so she can deal with the world around her instead of being a "warrior for Christ" fighting the evils of equal rights and non-discrimination based on belief (or any other factor, for that matter).

If you can see the line I'd love to hear from you. I'm going to have some eggs and toast. Maybe coffee. I have some of that flavoured creamer that is caramel and's really good.

4 Barbaric Yawps:

At 7/6/06 10:32 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the line is crossed at the point where a person begins to believe that their interpretation of their god's will is THE TRUTH. All of the non-nutty religious people I know are willing to at least consider a different interpretation of their scriptures (or whatever). It's when they become convinced that they know THE TRUTH that they become a threat to civilized society.

At 7/6/06 10:42 am, Blogger BigHeathenMike said...

Good point.

At 7/6/06 12:47 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

by nature, good people will do good things and bad people will do bad things.

It takes religion to make a good person do bad things

Not sure where I heard, but I wish I had said it first

At 7/6/06 1:31 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil it takes religion."
-Steven Weinberg, Nobel prize winning theoretical physicist.


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