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Sunday, February 03, 2008

Joey Ratz Talks, Benny Gets Protested 18 Years Later

This is a bit old but I still have to giggle at the inanity of the current Pope. Seriously, he's bordering on levels of retardedness only previously reached by Deepak and maybe Kevin "I'm a huge douche" Trudeau.

Check out some of these fabulous quotes from the article:
In an age when scientific developments attract and seduce with the possibilities they offer, it's more important than ever to educate our contemporaries' consciences so that science does not become the criterion for goodness
Fuck me, where to even begin with this fucking guy!? Science doesn't attract and seduce, it figures out. This is different from religion, which makes shit up. It's a small but important distinction. Also, science is not any criterion for goodness, whatever the hell that even means. I seriously hope he's not implying that religion is a criterion. That'd only take about six seconds to demolish as an argument.
Man is not the fruit of chance or a bundle of convergences, determinisms or physical and chemical reactions
Again with the chance thing? Really? Sure, chance plays a part, but to just state it like that harkens back to the days when millions of monkeys sat at millions of typewriters. Please think about what you're going to argue for a minimum of seventeen seconds; at least then maybe we'd get to deal with something that seems original.
The Pope reiterated a plea, made in many speeches since his election in 2005, for mankind to be "respected as the centre of creation
Who the fuck thinks we're the centre of creation? What balls! As the stellar comedian Bill Hicks once said, "He must have a specially fitted uniform in which to place those huge testicles." I guess the vastness of the Universe is lost on Ben. That's what happens when you put too much thought and effort towards choices in dashing hats. He's obviously never seen and read (or if he has, he's not appreciated) Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot. Centre, indeed.

Benny was, "criticized (for) his views on science, saying a speech he gave in 1990 showed he would have favoured the church's 17th-century heresy trial against Galileo." The church said the protesters "misunderstood" the speech - given back when the Pope was just "Joey Ratz". Here's the speech from 1990. Some of my favorite parts:
According to [Ernst] Bloch, the heliocentric system – just like the geocentric – is based upon presuppositions that can’t be empirically demonstrated...

From the point of view of the concrete consequences of the turning point Galileo represents, however, C.F. Von Weizsacker takes another step forward, when he identifies a “very direct path” that leads from Galileo to the atomic bomb...

The faith does not grow from resentment and the rejection of rationality, but from its fundamental affirmation and from being inscribed in a still greater form of reason.
Fuck my ass. I can't win with this dumbass. There's such a depth of bullshit that it's hard to know where to stick the shovel in first to try and get through it. I mean, saying that both the geocentric and heliocentric systems are based on shit that can't be demonstrated...that's helmet-headed. I think he may have taken a bracing shot of anti-freeze before he wrote that speech, because after we sent astronauts into orbit and they could, you know, WATCH the Earth rotate, the whole "Earth is stationary" idea sort of falls apart.

And lastly, the assertion that faith is more reasonable than the people who use the scientific method to learn about the world and Universe around us is just the most fucking stupid thing ever. Faith, by definition is unreasonable - you're believing in the face of either no evidence, or in many instances, verifiable conflicting or damning evidence against your silly superstitions.

Ben seriously needs to take a logic course and perhaps an intro astronomy course. All this meaningless and pointless philosophy gets old quickly in the hard light of reality. Maybe he just needs a thinker hat.

You KNOW someone could make him wear that too. That's the sad part.

1 Barbaric Yawps:

At 4/2/08 10:29 am, Blogger Violette said...

I have to say, that I actually agree with the top quote. It's taken out of context, but, if anyone else were speaking, I would take it to mean that, in this age, we have incredible potential for scientific development, BUT, we shouldn't develop something just because we can. We need to think not just scientifically, but philosophically about the what we're doing. However, knowing who's speaking, he probably means that we should use "religion", and in specific, Christianity, as opposed to philosophy or ethics when we "educate our contemporaries' consciences". And that is stupid.


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