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Thursday, February 21, 2008

Well, She Turned Me Into A Newt!

Bedevere: What makes you think she is a witch?
Villager: Well, she turned me into a newt.
Bedevere: A newt?
Villager: I got better....
Ok, seriously, is this a fucking joke? How can anyone take Saudi Arabia as anything other than a colossal waste of intellectual space? A country that the United States calls a "key ally" that is presumably going to execute a woman for being a witch.
This woman, who is illiterate, by the way, was:
...detained by religious police in 2005 and allegedly beaten and forced to fingerprint a confession that she could not read.
Nice. Women's rights are in such a dismal state in that excuse for a country that, according to the Human Rights Watch World Report for 2007 (which documents events from '06):
In February 2006 the Transport Committee of the Shura Council declined a motion to discuss the possibility of allowing women to drive. Minister of Information Iyad al-Madani, however, said that there was no obstacle to women applying for driver's licenses.
I love that - you can't drive a car, but you can get a license! Isn't that good enough for you, ladies?

Now, to be fair, in January of 2008 there was a story saying that the Kingdom will lift the ban on women drivers "soon", but if you read some of the asinine comments in that piece, your brain will likely vomit. Religion truly does fuck your mind up deeply and hard.

Then there's this:
Among her accusers was a man who alleged she made him impotent.
I mean, really. Why not just say that she turned him into a newt? It's the same fucking thing. Why would any authority figure take something this helmet-headed into consideration. I think they should kill that guy. I mean, if the public's intellect and safety is really your concern.

Human Rights Watch wrote a letter to King Abdullah which said in part:
...the woman was tried for the undefined crime of witchcraft and that her conviction was on the basis of the written statements of witnesses who said that she had bewitched them.
There are no words for how stupid people can be sometimes. This illiterate woman is likely going to be put to death because religious assholes are convinced that she "bewitched" them. I know there's a large time difference between Toronto and Riyadh, but I wasn't aware that it was 1300 years.

The last bit is this:
When an appeal court decided she should not be executed, the law courts imposed the death sentence again, arguing that it would be in the public interest.
You know what's not in the public interest? Making your country the laughingstock of the world. How can Saudi Arabia's judiciary be like the crowd in the duck scene of Grail? The lesson is - don't ask how. Just laugh and laugh and laugh...then cry a little.

10 Barbaric Yawps:

At 21/2/08 12:19 pm, Anonymous Manni said...

I love that - you can't drive a car, but you can get a license!

They didn't say that! They said that you can apply for a license. Big difference.

 
At 21/2/08 1:30 pm, Blogger BigHeathenMike said...

True enough. I should reword that because what I said gives those assclowns too much credit.

 
At 21/2/08 1:31 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, how are you going to pass the test if you're not allowed to drive!

 
At 21/2/08 1:49 pm, Blogger justin said...

Interestingly Human Rights Watch is opposed to the conviction based on these grounds:
"Human Rights Watch says the trial failed to meet the safeguards in the Saudi justice system.

The confession which the defendant was forced to fingerprint was not even read out to her, the group says."

...instead of the more reasonable grounds of: "There's no such thing as a witch." Are they saying that the conviction would be fine if there hadn't been procedural irregularities? Goodness.

 
At 21/2/08 2:46 pm, Blogger BigHeathenMike said...

I think (fuck, I hope) that HRW was just looking for the correct and most applicable way to stop the woman's murder by the Saudi authorities.

Personally, I'd just like to see them say, "What the fuck? How are you going to say there's witches around? Prove to us that there actually are witches and then we'll have a fucking starting point!"

That'd be fine by me.

 
At 21/2/08 8:51 pm, Blogger Evolved said...

Science saves.

Religion kills.

End of story.

 
At 22/2/08 4:18 pm, Blogger King Aardvark said...

justin, that would be showing desrespect towards their religion, and we can't have that. Being disrespectful and critical of a society's legal processes is perfectly fine; being critical of a society's beliefs is not allowable.

(And if that makes sense to you, then it's my religious belief that I'm entitled to all your money.)

 
At 22/2/08 8:48 pm, Blogger Maakuz said...

Judge: " Is there any evidence for this supposed withcraft?"

Prosecutor: "Yes, we do have a written confession."

Judge: "All I see is a bloody fingerprint."

Prosecutor: "Well, she can´t write.
And she slipped in the stairs while on her way to hearing!"

Judge: "Oh, how sad. But she has read and understood the accusations made againt her?"

Prosecutor: "Well she cant read either..."

Judge: "Hmm??"

Prosecutor: "But she´s a WITCH!!"

Judge: "Okay, in the name of public interest, I think we should
kill her. Case closed."

I think I had a comment here, but sometimes you just can´t find the words...

 
At 24/2/08 3:02 pm, Anonymous Infidel753 said...

Islamic culture is completely dominated by religion. As long as that remains the case, there will always be absurdities and horrors like this.

We're talking about a culture which accepts this man as an "astronomy researcher". It will never get any better.

 
At 25/2/08 2:14 pm, Blogger justin said...

@mike, king aardvark

I suppose they're taking the angle most likely to produce results. But still...

 

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