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Friday, September 21, 2012

Steve Tourloukis' "Confusion"

It has come to my attention that a dentist in Hamilton who promotes 'Christian values' in his family:
"...is currently suing his kids’ public school board for failing to warn him in advance about when, specifically, the school’s teachers would be discussing subjects like family values, marriage and sexuality in class."
He used a letter, known as the, "Traditional Values Letter", as his focal point. The letter was written by a guy named Phil Lees who heads the Family Coalition Party as well as the hilariously named PEACE (Public Education Advocates for Christian Equity), because as we all know, Christians are SO oppressed in this society. I mean, one yearns for the day when Christians can openly worship in buildings large enough for all the congregation to come together within, maybe even have their own school board in this secular society to promote their "values". It's sad how downtrodden these poor people have become. You can hardly even find someone willing to openly admit they're a Christian these days.

Oh, right, it's the opposite of that.

Tourloukis was quoted as saying:
“I’m not an extremist, but I must ensure that my children abstain from certain activities that may include lessons which promote views contrary to our faith...We know other denominations like Jehovah’s Witnesses and Muslims are excused for certain activities. Does our being Christian disqualify us from equitable treatment?”
In other words, "We see those OTHER homophobic, backwards, archaic, religious parents getting to pull their kids out of their classes when any sort of progressive ideas are being taught, so we should be able to keep our collective heads in the sands of the past as well! Waaaaahhhh!"

The letter itself is rather staggering in its cluelessness about how...how...12th century it sounds. For example, check this part out:
“We raise our children from a Biblical-Christian world view and exposing them to concepts and values that are in conflict with the values taught at church and home will lead to confusion"
Do you see what they're doing there? They're equating the word "confusion" with the word "discussion". It's not the same thing at all. When their kids at school are exposed to another child whose family might consist of two moms, that will lead to the first child asking a question at home about the situation. This will make the religious parent(s) have to explain their backwards, homophobic, nonsense to their child, corrupting them with the idea that the two-mom family is somehow "un-natural", "unacceptable", or "unhealthy". That, in turn, may lead to problems at school.

Apart from the homophobic ideas in the letter, there are also basic facts about health and the world around us that they would prefer if their children were ignorant about, thank you very much. For example, they would like it if they could take their kids out of class if/when the teacher starts:
Providing a false sense of security with regard to the effectiveness of condoms in preventing the spread of sexually transmitted diseases
Wow. What do you even say to that? It flies in the face of facts and is an attitude more in line with former South African presidents and health ministers. The word, "facepalm" comes to mind.

The letter repeats the former go-to quote of religious people trying to argue for their religion to be included in public schools:
"Secular Humanism, the value system often assumed by public institutions as acceptable to everyone, has been identified as a religion in the courts."
Weeeeellll, yes and no. What they are basing this assumption on is a ruling in the U.S. Supreme court from 1961 (Torcaso v Watson) wherein the judge made an after-note with respect to his decision which said:
Among the religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism, and others.
The letter that Tourloukis uses and that Lee wrote is referring to this quote, but they are either deceitful or ignorant because this is clearly referenced on many websites as being an obiter dictum, a legal term meaning, "said in passing" and holding no legal weight. Basically, this has no relevance on the ruling and is the judge's opinion.

The gist here is that, no, secular humanism is not a religion and as has been pointed out, being secular and being religious are antithetical. It would be like trying to be a slovenly neat-freak.

In a rational society, a statement such as the following would set off quote a few alarm bells, mostly because of its resemblance to what a cult would say. Replace "Biblical-Christian" below with "Jim Jones'" and see how scary it becomes:
As a family, we adhere to a set of values based on traditional Biblical-Christian principles. I/we believe that it is our responsibility, to teach these values to our children, and that the application of these values is important for achieving eternal life.
Get that? "Eternal life". I get that you might want to achieve this...I guess you can call it a "goal", but pulling your kids out of school because, "gay people are bad, evolution isn't real, condoms don't protect you, and our Sky Fairy made the Earth for us to use as we will", makes you crazy, and we can't have a public school system based on crazy.

I get that Steve Tourloukis wants his kids to be good people, and that the people from the Family Coalition Party and PEACE just want the best for their children, but keeping young people from hearing ideas contrary to their upbringing and having discussions is how we advance as a species. It's how we move forward and get our next generation to do better than we did at coming together and making this a great place to live (both our country and the world as a whole). Don't be afraid to talk about ideas, people.

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2 Barbaric Yawps:

At 21/9/12 6:40 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If your beliefs are so hard to support that you have to isolate your children from other beliefs you should spend some time looking for reasons to defend your position. You know, like rational people do. One day they will leave home and do it without your help. Just learn to think for goodness sake.

Tony

 
At 22/9/12 4:24 pm, Anonymous L.Long said...

....I get that Steve Tourloukis wants his kids to be good people, and that the people from the Family Coalition Party and PEACE just want the best for their children,.....to which I add BS!!!
They do not want what is best for their kids. They want what is best for their kids after they die and stand before a fairy tale based on a fairytale they believe and have no proof for. Their kids can suffer and die and live miserable lives as long as they follow their made up silly rules.

 

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